Over the weekend, there were Jehovah’s Witnesses that had flown in to go door-to-door in our community. I typed up a brief list of things to think about or discuss if they are in your own neighborhood. I do not claim this is comprehensive; this is just a starting point for discussions.
Above all else, please be courteous and kind in all of your interactions with Jehovah’s Witnesses.
If you are interested in having a discussion, be aware of a few things:
1) They have certain passages they have been trained to expect (eg. John 1:1) and will not deviate from their own “translation” which, though wrong, will not be fruitful in trying to dissuade them from.
2) They are seeking the truth, just as we are.
3) They do not believe Jesus is God, but rather Michael the Archangel (though I have had some deny this)–see below for a few verses to discuss this.
4) They believe they must work to get to heaven. Emphasize God’s grace in your own interactions with them.
If you do want to go into some depth, here are some good passages:
1. Compare Isaiah 44:24 (YHWH/The LORD [they’d say Jehovah] is speaking and says that God made the heavens “by myself.” to Colossians 1:16 in which the son creates all things–if the Son creates all and God creates all “by myself,” who is the Son? [Note: their translation will say that the Son creates all “other” things in Colossians 1, inserting the word “other” many times in the opening chapter where it doesn’t exist in the Greek manuscripts, but this doesn’t undermine the point, because even if it says “other” things, those other things are things Jehovah creates “by myself” in Isaiah]
2. Compare Revelation 22:8-9 [John bows down to an angel, thinking, apparently, the angel is God or worthy of worship] to Hebrews 1:5-6 (and following) [the Son is listed as being worshiped and even angels must worship the Son].
3. Walk through Jeremiah 23:5-6 in their own translation. Ask who the first verse is about–who is the one from the branch of David? Jesus, clearly, and they’ll agree. Then in verse 6, what is the name that Jesus will be called–JEHOVAH our righteousness. It says this in their own translation. So if the prophecy is about Jesus, and Jehovah says the name of this coming king will be Jehovah…. who is Jesus?
Finally, pray for those with whom you disagree.
In any case JW are right about Jesus being the son of God and not being God. concerning John 1:1 you seem to forget that there is a difference between go, gods and God and are wrongly taken the NWT being a book giving the right idea of the original text with presenting the difference between The God and a god.
You also seem to forget that God is, was and always shall be the Most High, whilst Jesus was first lower than angels and got placed higher and came to sit next to God (and not on God’s throne) much later in history, him, as second Adam, being the first of the new creation, which Jesus took care it coming in being (by several English Bibles translated as “created”).
I didn’t deal with John 1:1 in this post, so it’s disingenuous to claim I “seem to forget” anything about it. After all, I didn’t even make any claims from the text itself in this post, so I don’t know where you’re getting that from. Also, I’m curious about how many True God(s) you believe there are.
You used “you seem to forget” twice in this post, which seems rather a condescending way to interact. I didn’t forget that at all. I agree that God is the Most High. Since Jesus is God, that doesn’t really make a problem.
There is only One True God: the God of Israel, Who is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus and his disciples, Who is Only One and not three or two.
We aren’t in disagreement about God not being three or two.
So you do not believe in the Trinity?
I do. But I don’t think that makes three gods and either does any other orthodox trinitarian.
Also, you affirm there is only one true God. Is Jesus “a god” (differentiated from the One True God) then in your view?
Jesus according to the Words of the Only One True God is God His begotten beloved son, the sent one from God. He is an important person and a son of man of high esteem and as such has also the title of being a god, like Moses, Pharaoh, Baal, Zeus, Apollo and others are called god (but are not the One True God of gods).
Okay. Well I would like to circle back on that later. But as I already said before, you didn’t actually address the prophecy of Christ in Jeremiah, in which the one from the branch of Jesse will be called Jehovah.
Nowhere in the bible is written that the name that Jesus will be called would be “JEHOVAH”.
This post is an introduction, as should be clear from the context. However, if one agrees that Jeremiah 23:5-6 is a prophecy of Christ, which it certainly seems to be, then in that passage the name by which Christ will be called is Jehovah.